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Present: Dave Britton (Chair), Tony Cass, David Colling, Pete Gronbech, Roger Jones, Steve Lloyd, Andrew McNab, Louisa Campbell (Minutes).
Apologies: Pete Clarke, Jeremy Coles, Tony Doyle, Dave Kelsey, Andrew Sansum, Gareth Smith.
1. Network Forward Look
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DB invited comments and asked to ensure Atlas and CMS are happy with the high level message. DC suggested it may be slightly conservative compared to non-UK based colleagues, but a viable level of networking. The message from US, Germany and Italy is variable and we should stress a little more and flag up as on the horizon soon. RJ’s initial reading concurs that we may be being slightly conservative. David Salmon and James Blessing will be attending GridPP39 and this is an opportunity to ensure the message is understood. We are attempting to manage expectations so discussion with David Salmon in person would be very helpful.
DB will go through the document in more detail this afternoon to strengthen the message and make necessary edits – PMB comments were invited.
ACTION 643.1: DB will go over the Network Forward Look document to make corrections and clarify where necessary.
2. Tier-1 Procurement comments?
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AS and PG were not present so this item will be discussed at the F2F in Lancaster.
3. GridPP39 Agenda
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Session 1 – GridPP5 status & future – DB will deliver.
RJ is investigating who best to give the talk on Lancaster Physics and will firm up.
DIRAC Report – Mark Wilkinson is Jeremy Yates’ successor and was invited by DB and PC. He will discuss DIRAC and its connection with GridPP.
STFC – Anthony Davenport – we are awaiting firm confirmation that he will definitely speak (he is registered to attend).
Session 2 – This session may need to be moved due to travel of Gareth Roy, awaiting confirmation.
Awaiting Andrew Lahiff confirming he is speaking.
Session 3 DC confirmed that he has this in hand and Chris Brew will firm up today. He may need to get permission from CMS computing management to ensure there is nothing sensitive being covered.
Dan Traynor on GPUs and use – this will be very helpful/timely.
Alessandra will discuss GPU and other VOs
Openstack discussion led by AM. This was due to a discussion at the Ops meeting, Infrastructure – it is possible new users may prefer us to use openstack so it would be useful to discuss Openstack and infrastructure. This may be counterintuitive for smaller site accessibility and manpower aspects need to be considered. This also reassures other sites this is a direction they can get involved in. AM will check with PG to ensure no sensitive information is covered.
Sponsor talk – BIOS Ltd.
Friday
Session 4 David Crooks.
ll discuss SOC – DK was asked to give a talk due to Ian leaving but he cannot attend. DB asked for suggestions on what could be included in this session as we are short on talks.
Session 5 Talk on Janet (James Blessing)
PC will discuss GridPP Network Forward Look
It was intended to have IPP6 talk but this may not be possible.
Session 6 Alistair Dewhurst will discuss Echo
Sam Skipsey will discuss ZFS.
There are some talks needed in different sessions. RJ noted there is no general Atlas talk, but there is one for LHCb – particularly the view on Castor and Echo plus wider LHCb issues which will fit in with Echo Status update in session 6. DB may rearrange the agenda.
DC suggested making the CMS talk more general and discuss the CPU efficiency taskforce. Chris Brew will incorporate this.
Atlas – RJ is in discussion with Simone and will try to get this finished off then RJ may give the talk.
SKA updates (5 minutes) – AM will discuss this and sites that can offer storage.
Daniela could give a brief update and Solid talk could be given – same team who deal with LZ so Daniela can do both.
QMUL possible talk on Moedal – John Hays may be able to give a talk on this (5 mins).
ACTION 643.2: DB will update the agenda with suggestions for extra talks at GridPP39.
4. AOCB
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a) Atlas data loss from ECHO
This will be discussed at the F2F.
b) CLASP Fund Launch
PC circulated an email to the PMB – Tony Medland had emailed and asked for some support. There are funds available and DB invited the PMB to make suggestions.
c) DC will replace Stephen Fairhurst as the Chair of CAP (first meeting probably mid-October). He will circulate a list of the current membership. This is an advisory body to STFC with the same status as other advisory bodies, influence has been steadily growing. With the UKTO issues this is an important opportunity to increase the influence of this body.
5. Standing Items
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SI-0 Bi-Weekly Report from Technical Group (DC)
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No meeting since end July so nothing to report.
SI-1 Dissemination Report (SL)
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Transfer of funds to Imperial – DC has emailed the administrator at Imperial and she is discussing with QM so this appears to be in hand. DC is following through.
SI-2 ATLAS Weekly Review and Plans (RJ)
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Nothing significant to report.
SI-3 CMS Weekly Review and Plans (DC)
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Meeting this week relates to the efficiency task force and there is some odd results. 60% inefficiencies showing up and dependant on whether data is local or not and there are a few other issues relating to job efficiencies. Details will be provided in Lancaster. DC advises a report will be available by the next IRB.
SI-4 LHCb Weekly Review and Plans (PC)
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Nothing significant to report.
SI-5 Production Manager’s report (JC)
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Not in attendance and no report submitted.
SI-6 Tier-1 Manager’s Report (GS)
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Not in attendance and no report submitted.
SI-7 LCG Management Board Report of Issues (DB)
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No meeting so nothing to report.
SI-8 External Contexts (PC)
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Not in attendance and no report submitted.
REVIEW OF ACTIONS
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638.1: PC will update the text on the Network Forward Look document for the forthcoming 2 years. Done (DB will update).
638.2: AS will check when equipment is due to become obsolete and investigate legal and manpower of donation to the African Data Centre for Bioinformatics and Medical Research. (Update: AS is looking into how this may impact Global Challenge Research Fund – GCRF – which would involve a cross-Council bid) Ongoing.
641.1: AS will email Tony Medland asking whether a decision can be advised before September on the availability of STFC funding before the procurement submission deadline in August. Ongoing.
642.1: DB will extend an invitation to the new Dirac director and a representative of SKA to attend GridPP39. Done.
642.2: AS & GS will discuss Tier-1 talks that could be included in agenda for GridPP39. Done.
642.3: LC – if David Salmond and Duncan Rand are on UKHEP and if not invite them to join. Done.
642.4: RJ will consider who to give a talk on LHC and CERN current status. Ongoing.
ACTIONS AS OF 04.09.17
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638.2: AS will check when equipment is due to become obsolete and investigate legal and manpower of donation to the African Data Centre for Bioinformatics and Medical Research. (Update: AS is looking into how this may impact Global Challenge Research Fund – GCRF – which would involve a cross-Council bid) Ongoing.
641.1: AS will email Tony Medland asking whether a decision can be advised before September on the availability of STFC funding before the procurement submission deadline in August. Ongoing.
642.4: RJ will consider who to give a talk on LHC and CERN current status. Ongoing.
643.1: DB will go over the Network Forward Look document to make corrections and clarify where necessary.
643.2: DB will update the agenda with suggestions for extra talks at GridPP39.